1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:11,049 [Music] 2 00:00:18,830 --> 00:00:16,250 hi I'm Eric and this is an ice shelf 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:18,840 just off the north coast of Ellesmere 4 00:00:24,970 --> 00:00:23,130 Island in the Canadian Arctic and this 5 00:00:29,590 --> 00:00:24,980 is interesting for my purposes because 6 00:00:32,779 --> 00:00:29,600 this ice shelf has relatively extensive 7 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:32,789 microbial mats covering it that are 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:36,120 dominated by cyanobacteria and in 9 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:39,570 particular the cyanobacteria have some 10 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,390 of the highest concentrations of site 11 00:00:46,489 --> 00:00:44,640 aneema in a pigment that we're going to 12 00:00:49,189 --> 00:00:46,499 be talking about this is a photo 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:49,199 protective pigment it absorbs UV 14 00:00:55,309 --> 00:00:51,210 radiation and helps protect the sign of 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:55,319 bacterial cells and it makes sense that 16 00:01:00,799 --> 00:00:58,050 in this kind of environment say the 17 00:01:02,689 --> 00:01:00,809 bacteria would produce quite a lot of it 18 00:01:04,370 --> 00:01:02,699 because this is a very exposed 19 00:01:07,220 --> 00:01:04,380 environment and not only is the sun 20 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:07,230 shining from the top but also there's a 21 00:01:11,750 --> 00:01:09,480 very reflective surface and thus it's 22 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:11,760 very hard to escape this this radiation 23 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:13,920 as anyone would know who has maybe spent 24 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:15,510 some time skiing in the in the spring 25 00:01:23,660 --> 00:01:18,720 it's very hard to avoid getting 26 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:23,670 sunburned so if we look at zoomed in 27 00:01:26,810 --> 00:01:25,200 pictures of these types of nets we can 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:26,820 see quite a bit of this this this 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:30,450 brownish or dark orange pigment which is 30 00:01:36,620 --> 00:01:32,610 which is what sites and even looks like 31 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:36,630 invisible light here is an absorption 32 00:01:41,660 --> 00:01:38,640 spectrum of sites anemia this is the the 33 00:01:46,370 --> 00:01:41,670 solid line with an S and you can see 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:46,380 that it is best at absorbing in the long 35 00:01:55,970 --> 00:01:51,090 wavelength end of the of the UV spectrum 36 00:01:58,130 --> 00:01:55,980 so 2 UV a is is where it where it 37 00:02:00,020 --> 00:01:58,140 absorbs the best and you can also see 38 00:02:01,580 --> 00:02:00,030 that in the visible light it doesn't 39 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:01,590 really absorb anything instead of the 40 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:03,510 the yellow and red region that's why it 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:05,790 white looks yellowish and and reddish in 42 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:08,450 their visible lights there is another 43 00:02:12,930 --> 00:02:12,329 set of compounds that cyanobacteria use 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:12,940 for the 45 00:02:18,390 --> 00:02:14,530 you refer to protection they are the 46 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:18,400 micros foreign like amino acids and this 47 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:19,750 is something that I want to look at in 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:24,360 future work so when we first started 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:29,290 looking at this particular compound and 50 00:02:36,570 --> 00:02:34,810 the history of its biosynthesis one 51 00:02:38,340 --> 00:02:36,580 thing that that occurred to us is a 52 00:02:41,820 --> 00:02:38,350 relevant environmental factor that would 53 00:02:44,220 --> 00:02:41,830 influence the production of site anemia 54 00:02:45,450 --> 00:02:44,230 in the past is is obviously the oxygen 55 00:02:48,060 --> 00:02:45,460 level because because in in today's 56 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:48,070 world at least it is the ozone layer 57 00:02:53,070 --> 00:02:50,890 that mostly modulates how much UV 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:53,080 radiation gets onto the ground and and 59 00:03:00,210 --> 00:02:55,090 how much the organisms have to deal with 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:00,220 it and so this is a famous graph by by 61 00:03:08,010 --> 00:03:03,610 Tim Lyons and others and depicts the the 62 00:03:10,410 --> 00:03:08,020 oxygen history on earth showing sort of 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:10,420 two general increases in oxygen level 64 00:03:17,790 --> 00:03:15,810 one about 2.4 2.3 billion years ago 65 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:17,800 referred to as the great oxygenation 66 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:20,110 event and one in that in the lake near 67 00:03:29,580 --> 00:03:25,450 Perth or Zurich about 600 650 million 68 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:29,590 years ago and so this clearly would have 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:31,300 had an influence on the presence of the 70 00:03:36,270 --> 00:03:33,490 ozone layer because those onus is made 71 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:36,280 out of oxygen photochemically so before 72 00:03:40,230 --> 00:03:38,350 here there will be very little those are 73 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:40,240 layer here things would change a bit and 74 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:42,190 here you know something close to the 75 00:03:47,610 --> 00:03:44,560 modern an ozone layer but probably 76 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:47,620 appear now this this UVA radiation is 77 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:49,450 interesting in that the ozone layer 78 00:03:54,330 --> 00:03:51,250 doesn't really do much to it to be 79 00:03:59,130 --> 00:03:54,340 honest but what is interesting about it 80 00:04:01,410 --> 00:03:59,140 is that this UVA radiation actually 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:01,420 becomes dangerous to organisms in the 82 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:04,570 presence of oxygen because UVA is very 83 00:04:09,090 --> 00:04:06,340 good at making various reactive oxygen 84 00:04:12,030 --> 00:04:09,100 radicals that are then injurious to 85 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:12,040 living cells so for our purposes 86 00:04:18,510 --> 00:04:15,550 actually this curve is more relevant as 87 00:04:21,510 --> 00:04:18,520 a time as a showing when the exactly 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:21,520 oxygen arose in such a way that perhaps 89 00:04:28,460 --> 00:04:25,530 now UVA protection would be necessary 90 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:28,470 another thing that as children the first 91 00:04:34,970 --> 00:04:31,440 picture might influence satiny 92 00:04:36,470 --> 00:04:34,980 mid-levels in organisms is glaciations 93 00:04:38,510 --> 00:04:36,480 and in particular perhaps the most 94 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:38,520 extensive and and then largest ones the 95 00:04:43,010 --> 00:04:39,930 global they see Asians of the Paleo 96 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:43,020 Proterozoic at the neoproterozoic and so 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:44,490 you know especially in some of the more 98 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:47,130 extreme hard snowball scenarios that 99 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:48,570 people have proposed you know where you 100 00:04:52,010 --> 00:04:50,850 have a global sea glacier where all the 101 00:04:53,660 --> 00:04:52,020 oceans are covered with hundreds of 102 00:04:59,150 --> 00:04:53,670 meters of water well the central 103 00:05:00,680 --> 00:04:59,160 questions is how to sustain complex life 104 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:00,690 in these systems which which did happen 105 00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:02,730 and one necessary component for that is 106 00:05:07,490 --> 00:05:05,220 obviously that someone somewhere needs 107 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:07,500 to do photosynthesis and one thing that 108 00:05:15,470 --> 00:05:11,130 has been proposed is that perhaps there 109 00:05:18,740 --> 00:05:15,480 were cyanobacteria in enough water ponds 110 00:05:20,540 --> 00:05:18,750 probably close to the equator and then 111 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:20,550 perhaps these environments do not look 112 00:05:24,220 --> 00:05:22,410 unlike what we see today and in places 113 00:05:27,230 --> 00:05:24,230 like Ellis Muir Island 114 00:05:29,380 --> 00:05:27,240 so again if this was the case then 115 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:29,390 perhaps we would we would expect to see 116 00:05:33,770 --> 00:05:31,530 interesting developments in sites and 117 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:33,780 even production at at these times and 118 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:36,270 then maybe more so than in today's polar 119 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:37,560 environments because here we're talking 120 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:39,330 about equatorial environments where 121 00:05:45,860 --> 00:05:42,510 where the intensity of radiation is is 122 00:05:51,170 --> 00:05:45,870 harsher than then today in the polar 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:51,180 areas so very briefly saturnine in is is 124 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:53,490 this this pigment here it is it is 125 00:05:58,909 --> 00:05:56,210 synthesized based on relatively 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:05:58,919 relatively basic organic compounds 127 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:01,530 tryptophan prep inator are some 128 00:06:07,820 --> 00:06:05,220 precursors and there is the set of of a 129 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:07,830 proteins called saya through through CF 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:09,810 that do most of the synthesis synthesis 131 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:12,810 and I'll briefly also be mentioning some 132 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:16,320 other proteins that mainly that mainly 133 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:20,790 make the precursors for this for this 134 00:06:28,610 --> 00:06:27,360 synthesis now these relevant genes which 135 00:06:31,820 --> 00:06:28,620 contain the information for these 136 00:06:33,380 --> 00:06:31,830 proteins are collected into one cluster 137 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:33,390 in the genomes of organisms the 138 00:06:36,409 --> 00:06:35,310 heather's there there one operon and we 139 00:06:40,460 --> 00:06:36,419 will be talking most about the yellow 140 00:06:45,260 --> 00:06:43,010 this is a a phylogenetic tree of one of 141 00:06:47,030 --> 00:06:45,270 them of saisi it's versions in different 142 00:06:48,470 --> 00:06:47,040 organisms I don't expect you to be able 143 00:06:50,890 --> 00:06:48,480 to read the names but I will talk about 144 00:06:53,930 --> 00:06:50,900 the general structure of this tree 145 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:53,940 this shows how this isyes in different 146 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:55,730 organisms are related to each other and 147 00:07:00,290 --> 00:06:58,050 we can see that there is this there is 148 00:07:01,910 --> 00:07:00,300 this large group of um gnostic Ailey's 149 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:01,920 these are certain mostly mostly 150 00:07:08,780 --> 00:07:05,580 terrestrial cyanobacteria that live in 151 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:08,790 large colonies and and if we look 152 00:07:11,900 --> 00:07:10,620 actually at that this help free or even 153 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:11,910 if we look within the star Kaylee's we 154 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:13,890 can actually see that this that the 155 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:15,330 screen reflects the species tree 156 00:07:19,790 --> 00:07:18,330 relatively well and even if we look 157 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:19,800 beyond the duster Kaylee's we see that 158 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:22,080 the closest sister group is this genus 159 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:23,250 crawl coccidiosis 160 00:07:29,210 --> 00:07:25,650 and beyond that we have some some more 161 00:07:32,270 --> 00:07:29,220 distantly related cyanobacteria this 162 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:32,280 basically looks exactly the same as a 163 00:07:40,250 --> 00:07:37,560 species tree of all above this clade of 164 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:40,260 cyanobacteria here we can see the here 165 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:41,610 we can see the Noster Kaylee's we can 166 00:07:46,670 --> 00:07:45,060 see curl coccidiosis the the closest 167 00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:46,680 sister group in our study as well and 168 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:48,750 some of the things so them in the top 169 00:07:54,409 --> 00:07:52,560 part of the LR tree here are these 170 00:07:57,500 --> 00:07:54,419 things that our sister - - Gnostic 171 00:08:00,080 --> 00:07:57,510 aalesunds and curl coccidiosis so 172 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:00,090 basically it seems that what has 173 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:04,080 happened is that the capacity to produce 174 00:08:10,130 --> 00:08:07,110 such an amine arose in some common 175 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:10,140 ancestor of this clade here and has 176 00:08:16,340 --> 00:08:13,500 since been vertically inherited by by 177 00:08:21,460 --> 00:08:16,350 its descendants losted some of them but 178 00:08:25,070 --> 00:08:21,470 but not not that many of them so so here 179 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:25,080 now we this is an existing species creed 180 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:27,930 cyanobacteria that was made a few years 181 00:08:33,529 --> 00:08:31,110 ago many different well conserved genes 182 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:33,539 including ribosomal protein irreversible 183 00:08:37,370 --> 00:08:34,890 protein genes and things like that were 184 00:08:40,219 --> 00:08:37,380 used for that and so what the reason why 185 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:40,229 I wanted to want you to check my tree 186 00:08:44,270 --> 00:08:41,760 against this is mainly to date when 187 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:44,280 exactly sites anemic production would 188 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:47,850 have appeared and basically that would 189 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:49,050 mean that we would need to determine 190 00:08:53,930 --> 00:08:50,670 where exactly 191 00:08:55,550 --> 00:08:53,940 this last common ancestor of the clades 192 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:55,560 that have the sight anemia production 193 00:09:02,420 --> 00:08:58,080 capacity existed and so there's no 194 00:09:06,590 --> 00:09:02,430 disorder about here so so maybe is 195 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:06,600 somewhere between 2.0 and 2.5 billion 196 00:09:11,330 --> 00:09:08,610 years ago is when when this claim with 197 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:11,340 sites and even diverges from from other 198 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:13,050 cyanobacteria that do not have site 199 00:09:18,770 --> 00:09:17,130 anemia below I have a different tree 200 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:18,780 which is from the same paper it just 201 00:09:24,950 --> 00:09:20,570 makes slightly different assumptions 202 00:09:27,140 --> 00:09:24,960 about molecular evolution rates and uses 203 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:27,150 slightly different calibrations and you 204 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:30,480 can see that here this relevant relevant 205 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:32,930 branching event is prospectus lightly 206 00:09:36,950 --> 00:09:35,310 slightly more to about two point two 207 00:09:38,510 --> 00:09:36,960 point find again with with some 208 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:38,520 uncertainties as you can see from the 209 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:44,640 error bars over here so that's so from 210 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:46,500 our study it seems that this is 211 00:09:49,790 --> 00:09:48,030 something that was developed made 212 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:49,800 somewhere between two and two and a half 213 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:52,890 billion years ago and and there was very 214 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:54,510 recently about about two months ago 215 00:10:00,260 --> 00:09:58,050 another paper by by people from Arizona 216 00:10:05,380 --> 00:10:00,270 State University where they also made an 217 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:05,390 effort to to date cyanobacteria 218 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:09,210 production of sites and even they used a 219 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:10,710 different set of genes they actually 220 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:12,720 looked at these at these genes that are 221 00:10:18,290 --> 00:10:14,790 responsible for the production of the 222 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:18,300 precursors to the sites and even 223 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:22,290 biosynthesis and in the in the orange 224 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:27,930 here you can see the dates for origin of 225 00:10:31,010 --> 00:10:29,430 secondary production that they got from 226 00:10:33,620 --> 00:10:31,020 looking at different genes they made 227 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:33,630 separate molecular clocks for for each 228 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:35,310 of these genes and you can see that 229 00:10:41,420 --> 00:10:37,230 there is quite a bit of variability but 230 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:41,430 in general again the placement would be 231 00:10:47,660 --> 00:10:45,510 somewhere here just above two billion 232 00:10:53,420 --> 00:10:47,670 years ago I marked that the goe here in 233 00:10:55,940 --> 00:10:53,430 in blue so this timing is interesting 234 00:11:00,220 --> 00:10:55,950 not just for four sites at first sight 235 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:00,230 and even then for understanding UV 236 00:11:05,540 --> 00:11:04,170 radiation protection but also 237 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:05,550 obviously it says something more 238 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:09,410 generally about when Santa bacteria 239 00:11:13,010 --> 00:11:11,250 developed and when important 240 00:11:15,620 --> 00:11:13,020 evolutionary events concerning them 241 00:11:17,210 --> 00:11:15,630 happens so this is this is here a set of 242 00:11:21,170 --> 00:11:17,220 their estimated from the same molecular 243 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:21,180 clocks for the for the time of origin of 244 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:23,490 crown group cyanobacteria again quite a 245 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:25,890 bit of variation but but the clear 246 00:11:30,890 --> 00:11:27,600 consensus that this is something that 247 00:11:32,570 --> 00:11:30,900 happened well before the goe and then 248 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:32,580 people have have argued about this quite 249 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:33,650 a bit 250 00:11:43,550 --> 00:11:39,530 so just to recap it does look like the 251 00:11:46,780 --> 00:11:43,560 relevant biochemical pathway arose about 252 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:46,790 two two and a half billion years ago in 253 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:49,890 some commonest ancestor of these what 254 00:11:52,690 --> 00:11:51,450 are today mostly terrestrial 255 00:11:55,580 --> 00:11:52,700 cyanobacteria 256 00:11:58,070 --> 00:11:55,590 and has has been vertically inherited 257 00:12:00,080 --> 00:11:58,080 ever since it's interesting that the 258 00:12:01,820 --> 00:12:00,090 origin of this pathway coincides well 259 00:12:04,010 --> 00:12:01,830 with both the great oxygenation event 260 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:04,020 and and the Paleozoic glacial events 261 00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:06,240 that might have been related to that and 262 00:12:09,940 --> 00:12:07,440 that's interesting because you know 263 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:09,950 again if our hypothesis is that this UVA 264 00:12:15,980 --> 00:12:12,960 sunscreen became necessary upon the 265 00:12:18,220 --> 00:12:15,990 introduction of oxygen which suddenly 266 00:12:23,420 --> 00:12:18,230 may you be a dangerous because it made 267 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:23,430 these reactive oxygen species that means 268 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:26,970 that perhaps this hypothesis agrees with 269 00:12:36,130 --> 00:12:32,250 our with our dating finally what I would 270 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:36,140 say is that the beyond this idea that 271 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:39,930 perhaps we have found this correlation 272 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:42,090 between the physical environment events 273 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:47,400 and the observation of having this site 274 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:50,490 an amine biosynthesis pathway we can 275 00:12:58,970 --> 00:12:53,610 also flip this whole exercise on our 276 00:13:02,180 --> 00:12:58,980 head and ask if we believe that certain 277 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:02,190 diamond production should appear at this 278 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:04,710 point in history where oxygen is 279 00:13:14,949 --> 00:13:07,490 introduced into the Earth's atmosphere 280 00:13:18,999 --> 00:13:14,959 then we can use our analysis to check 281 00:13:22,059 --> 00:13:19,009 any molecular clocks or cyanobacteria as 282 00:13:24,819 --> 00:13:22,069 a whole and we would know that okay this 283 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:24,829 this note here where where cyano this 284 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:27,290 branch here where cyanobacterial site 285 00:13:31,470 --> 00:13:29,360 anemic production appears needs to be 286 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:31,480 somewhere around the goe 287 00:13:37,569 --> 00:13:34,639 right and this actually and then this 288 00:13:40,749 --> 00:13:37,579 actually would would determine quite a 289 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:40,759 bit of when various other important 290 00:13:46,329 --> 00:13:42,649 divergence events inside a bacterial 291 00:13:48,129 --> 00:13:46,339 history appear and obviously it would 292 00:13:53,489 --> 00:13:48,139 push the the origin of crown group 293 00:13:57,699 --> 00:13:53,499 cyanobacteria into the past 294 00:13:59,679 --> 00:13:57,709 substantially beyond the goe so that's 295 00:14:01,540 --> 00:13:59,689 all currently and I'm happy to take 296 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:01,550 questions thank you 297 00:14:21,010 --> 00:14:17,320 Oh sue I'm not sure if you highlighted 298 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:21,020 this in detail but there bacteria 299 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:23,260 archaea prokaryotes a whole host of 300 00:14:42,070 --> 00:14:27,490 mechanisms to deal with oxidative stress 301 00:14:43,570 --> 00:14:42,080 so related to this would you see also we 302 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:43,580 have none at this point but it is 303 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:45,590 definitely something that we want to do 304 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:49,850 we want to in fact not only analyze the 305 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:53,270 relevant genes for for other ways of 306 00:14:57,810 --> 00:14:55,310 dealing with oxidative stress their DNA 307 00:15:00,190 --> 00:14:57,820 repair mechanisms and all these things 308 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:00,200 but another approach that we that we 309 00:15:04,660 --> 00:15:03,110 want to take is also that we're very 310 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:04,670 welcome for any suggestions that we 311 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:06,950 should in any particular genes or Dean 312 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:10,120 families that we should look into for 313 00:15:14,230 --> 00:15:12,380 anything that might be relevant to the 314 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:14,240 to the physical environment that we're 315 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:16,310 looking into so if anyone has any 316 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:19,330 suggestions about as you pointed out the 317 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:21,890 relevant biological process that we're 318 00:15:25,570 --> 00:15:23,450 looking at and that might be informative 319 00:15:28,630 --> 00:15:25,580 over the same question or if anyone has 320 00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:28,640 any suggestions of any gene or gene 321 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:30,950 family that might be particularly 322 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:33,770 sensitive to perhaps the the snowball 323 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:35,570 earth events coinciding with with a goe 324 00:15:39,610 --> 00:15:37,280 or the sub C or the subsequent near 325 00:15:41,170 --> 00:15:39,620 further zoic oxygenation event these 326 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:41,180 suggestions are very very welcome and we 327 00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:43,610 in fact see this as a as a step in a 328 00:15:52,570 --> 00:15:50,360 larger study of of this type a very cool 329 00:15:54,970 --> 00:15:52,580 talk so I was interested about your 330 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:54,980 molecular clock calibration how many 331 00:16:00,100 --> 00:15:57,890 micro fossils were using to calibrate it 332 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:00,110 so again to clarify the molecular clock 333 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:02,090 is not mine it is from Bettina cher 334 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:08,210 Meister and others from 2015 the I would 335 00:16:11,830 --> 00:16:09,920 have to look up the exact number the 336 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:11,840 number is small and the sign of 337 00:16:15,490 --> 00:16:13,730 bacterial trees are still dictated by 338 00:16:18,670 --> 00:16:15,500 the choice of individual calibration 339 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:18,680 points the number is on the order of 3 5 340 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:22,190 something like that I know that you know 341 00:16:27,540 --> 00:16:24,530 one that I think definitely is commonly 342 00:16:30,570 --> 00:16:27,550 used is is the first 343 00:16:34,170 --> 00:16:30,580 the first sign of bacteria with 344 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:34,180 heterocysts so so these sections four 345 00:16:40,950 --> 00:16:38,530 and four and five here which are which 346 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:40,960 is you know this this this here and i 347 00:16:44,430 --> 00:16:42,390 think this number two might actually 348 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:44,440 correspond to one of the calibrations 349 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:46,030 that they use but it's it's a small 350 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:48,640 number that's why we still argue about 351 00:17:04,220 --> 00:16:50,530 sign of bacterial timing in history that 352 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:07,079 simultaneous evolution of society si 353 00:17:17,910 --> 00:17:16,260 great question i didn't go into much of 354 00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:17,920 this sort of phylogenetic detail here 355 00:17:26,370 --> 00:17:23,190 but it is interesting that all of them 356 00:17:28,199 --> 00:17:26,380 all of them seem to be present or in 357 00:17:30,090 --> 00:17:28,209 fact all of them except for like side d 358 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:30,100 which is not critical for making such an 359 00:17:35,970 --> 00:17:32,350 even anyway all of them seem to be 360 00:17:38,970 --> 00:17:35,980 present in this in this one group and in 361 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:38,980 most organisms that have any of these 362 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:41,050 they have all of these and he said so it 363 00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:42,490 does seem that they came in at the same 364 00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:45,790 time or or maybe maybe if they if they 365 00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:47,950 came in at first then you know these inc 366 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:49,480 uptake pathways have not been preserved 367 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:55,690 in terms of where they came from the if 368 00:17:59,810 --> 00:17:57,370 I recall correctly sigh see inside 369 00:18:02,610 --> 00:17:59,820 Beaver at least two of them had no 370 00:18:04,110 --> 00:18:02,620 closer love related genes whatsoever 371 00:18:06,030 --> 00:18:04,120 that you would find when you blast them 372 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:06,040 or something like that so God knows 373 00:18:08,910 --> 00:18:07,330 there might have been a heart saltine 374 00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:08,920 transfer from this from an extinct 375 00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:11,830 lineage could be anything some of the 376 00:18:21,180 --> 00:18:16,500 others had somewhat closely related 377 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:21,190 homologs among scientifically had maybe 378 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:24,340 some other function before but how this 379 00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:26,170 campaign together this is this is very 380 00:18:29,940 --> 00:18:27,940 interesting because II do genes they're 381 00:18:33,210 --> 00:18:29,950 also critical for making sites and even 382 00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:33,220 they seem to be have the other most 383 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:35,790 closely related things in Bacteroides 384 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:37,930 again they do its own gene transfer 385 00:18:42,350 --> 00:18:40,210 event from there it's fascinating how